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I wholeheartedly support what you are saying except for one thing: "alongside vaccines."

No. Sorry, no way. I voted for Trump and now I part ways with him over his support for these vaccines. They are not safe, they are not effective. The entire liability shield for vaccines MUST be removed so pharma doesn't stuff their gene therapy into the vaccine pipeline just to dump these poisons on us.

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Agreed completely. These mRNA shots are an abomination.

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Yeah I don't trust FLCCC at all. Controlled opposition. How could they possibly advocate this poison? It's not ignorance. That's not possible.

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This 'controlled opposition' is saving and has saved many, many lives on a global scale. They have put their careers and their lives on the line... Though tthey may not have stated it explicitly, their message and their work implicitly eliminates the need for a 'vaccine' and allows the possibiliity that their message can be heard by a wider audience that actually includes the masses that are unwittingly being brainwashed and deceived by the propaganda and lies The early treatment message can be heard by many . To combine it with an anti vaccine message which is quick to be labeled conspiracy and conspiracy theorist would mean that the early treatment message would be dismissed before it is even considered or heard by far too many people including many who many of those who may be considered to be more moderate and open.

Besides , that is Joyce, the author, who said that . I have never actually heard the FLCCC doctors say that. Maybe that is a step too far for her right now. But just as the rest of us, she is still learning.

For most of us, learning the truth, especially truth that includes such depths of evil is a process. It is best assimilated in bite size pieces. We cannot digest the whole ugly truth all at once. It seems too far fetched, too unbelievable. . We are incapable of taking it seriously but when we learn it in stages, each part of the truth builds on the last one , then we can learn and accept it

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It wouldn't have to be an ANTI-vaccine message. Just a very careful noncommittal detour around the subject so that later, as things develop, you wont have the embarrassment of having done a similar thing as C-H does here. But agreed, it is a very tricky thing to walk along the ridge of such a contentious and ready-to-crumble mountain as COVID policy without slipping off into a fall you will eventually regret.

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Not just Joyce. Pierre Kory also. FLCCC also explicitly promotes the debunked fake mask science with their I-Mask protocol.

Covid literally has killed nobody. Many nurses have come out already to explain how hospitals are paid to kill everyone, even withholding food and water.

Vitamin C cures it just like every other pathogenic illness. We don't need these ridiculous protocols, we don't need these doctors. This is all a sham.

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'fraid you made an ass of yourself here. sorry.

As for Joyce, see above

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Did i state something which you feel is untrue? If so let me know because there is good evidence for all of it.

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'Vitamin C cures it just like every other pathogenic illness.'

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I certainly wouldn't go that far. For whatever reason it seems FLCCC has deemed it necessary to pull their punches on this matter. In the current climate of lies, demonizations, de-platforming and all the rest, the "whole truth" is the most difficult to promote. Partial truths may be the necessary strategy for some until collapse of the Fauci regime is fully underway.

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That's the kind of logic that leads people to support Biden. Because at least he's not Trump! Or vice versa.

It's one thing if FLCCC would simply say nothing about the depop shot. But they are actively promoting it as being necessary alongside early treatment.

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and the catfish sock puppet wet dream of tyrants doubt factory weighs in

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Jan 14, 2022·edited Jan 14, 2022

I'm a conservative, but more than that, I'm a strong supporter of your Humanitarian Party! Can we edit it to be the Humanitarian and Truth Party? Follow the truth wherever it lies...left, right or center. We should be united and doing all we can to help each other. I have been appalled at how the FLCCC doctors and so many others have been treated. I shared on a previous post that your protocols saved my husband's life. I have shared those protocols far and wide! Thank you for taking up up this fight. Those of us who really know, know what a gift these wonderful and fearless doctors are! They are some of the greatest humanitarians of this generation. Thank you!

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Humanitarian and Truth in Science party?

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Jan 14, 2022·edited Jan 14, 2022

This pandemic has been the single biggest eye-opener most of us have ever known when it comes to who can and cannot be trusted, who can and cannot be relied upon to care about what happens to people, and who is really telling the truth. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that the MSM in general is unreliable, and narrative-driven, but at this point I have become an intractable adversary. As for the governmental agencies that many of us have naively thought had at least a neutral or benign intent toward us as citizens, well, suffice it to say that I will never again believe that to be the case unless something truly transformational takes place within those agencies. You simply cannot unsee what you've seen, and unknow what you've come to know. Once you're figured out what's going on, you can't go back and just put the blinders back on.

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CNN ratings dropping by 90% tells me people are waking up.

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I hope so. I think the next step for some folks is to also re-evaluate other things they've heard on that network and others in the light of what has happened with this subject, because the IVM issue is certainly not the only one they've misrepresented. If that happens I'll consider it another plus and I will be much more encouraged.

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So far, so good this year, no need for a doctor, but when I went to the ER in Dec 2020, and found my covid had turned to pneumonia, I figured they would help me. I didn't know any of this. I had a rudimentary understanding of pneumonia, but knew that you don't just give a weak antibiotic, send me home and tell me to come back if my oxygen gets below 90. WTH? So I look up, How to treat Pneumonia...not covid pneumonia, and see that most need steroids. It took over two days to get my doctor on a call, then get the script filled. The next 24 hours weren't better, but after that I got better fast. I lit into whoever called me from the hospital to ask how my care was. Had a doctor friend get mad that I now had Googled "medicine" and thought I was better than those doctors. Had many fights since about natural immunity. Just crazy land out there.

It is going to take me a while, but if I have to go to the doctor for anything, I'll ask if they would prescribe me Ivermectin for covid, and if they say no, I will walk out. I'll probably be mad and add in that they probably killed 80% of their patients who died from covid because they did nothing. As you can see, I'm still angry at having to go through all this "by myself" (thank God for substack).

Please keep getting the word out!

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Beautifully articulated - count me in as part of the Humanitarian Party. Thank you for all you and everyone at the FLCCC have done to bring truth regarding early treatment to us all.

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Joyce, thanks for your heart-felt article. As someone who's been actively following the FLCCC since your group started, including watcing all your weekly videos, I feel like I've been in the trenches along with you. It's been totally disgusting to watch the attacks! We all know who the heros of this covid battle are and it's certainly not corrupt Fauci, Walensky, Biden or any of the anti-medical choice democrats.

I feel as you do as an ex life-long democrat that I'm now "politically homeless." I've also become a one-issue voter. I'll vote against anyone who's pro-mandates, pro jabs or jobs, and pro lockdowns.

Please know there are people out here who are very grateful for what your group has accomplished and how many people the doctors have helped and saved. You're the good guys and, unfortunately, the Dems have become the bad guys. But it's an election year so maybe we can get rid of some of them. Let's hope!

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Mass formation psychosis. My best friends all believe I’m crazy. I have also changed my vote and opinions of liberals. At least conservations support their freedoms. Just to be clear all Covid-19 vaccines are still EUA’s. Caveat Emptor.

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Thank you. Too many believe the media narrative that they are fully approved now...Not to mention that to be called a vaccine the CDC had to change the definition of 'vaccine' in 2020. And to put icing on that particular cake, Webster recently 'updated 'the definition off anti vaxxer to include those who oppose vaccine mandates.

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THANK YOU!!! Your treatment protocol including Ivermectin saved me. The antibody infusion helped, but it wasn’t enough. I wouldn’t have made it without you. Thank you so very much for saving my life. Thank you for your bravery and standing up against our truly sad Country that has deduced itself to allowing ONE medical “doctor” (Anthony Fauci) at the podium, in what appears to me to be nothing more than merely driving agendas that are hurting and killing countless Americans, in addition to making us look completely and totally ignorant. It’s time to let the REAL DOCTORS AT FLCCC assist America and the world in ending this horrible ordeal, and for “Mr. Fauci” to step down immediately. He’s failed miserably across 2 very long years - In my world, you lose your job at that point. I’m forever grateful for you FLCCC. My God bless you all and keep you safe.❤️🙏🏼

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Oh yes, forgot to mention, Fauci was in charge of 1979 Hep-B trial on homosexuals just before explosion of HIV. Now he’s in charge of kids trials on Covid.

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To write and share your very personal story took an incredible amount of courage, integrity, humility, and intellectual honesty. Thank you for sharing it. I am truly sorry for the betrayal you feel.

What has happened to Dr. Kory, Dr. Marik, etc al., is unconscionable, and I think that this goes way beyond politics. I don't see how we vote our way out of this.

The entire FLCCC team are heroes for standing up for what is right. You are inspiring people of every political stripe around the world to speak up and push back however they can. This is the only way this nightmare will come to an end.

Thank you!

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It breaks my heart to see non-politicians define their personal identity in terms of political party, particularly when they are simultaneously ignoring the actual outcomes of the policies promoted by that party. An entire generation of kids has been stunted, some of them permanently destroyed, because adults voted based on a label rather than the content and outcomes of the underlying policies. While I appreciate everything the FLCCC has done, it wouldn't have been necessary if the adults in the nation voted for predictable outcomes over feelings about their political identity.

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It breaks my heart when people still believe the elections are real. Do you know how the votes are counted? JFK was assassinated when they realized he wasn't gonna go with the plan. Since then things have gotten even more sophisticated. My family and friends have verified for ourselves that our votes were not counted at our polling place in 2004 nor in 2008 when we voted for Ralph Nader. Oh well, who cares, turns out he's a vax shill as well.

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Jan 14, 2022·edited Jan 14, 2022

Once you open your eyes to the vile nature of the Democrat party, the hate and division they sow on a hourly basis, and it’s true agenda (unlimited power and unlimited money and the personal destruction of their opponents) you’ll start asking yourself do you want to continue to walk around feeling superior and self righteous and are only to willing to demonize those who believe differently then you! Playing the victim is an intoxicating drug. The Democrats recruit members and voters by playing identity politics with their endless lies. I certainly wouldn’t want to stand with the haters.

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Part of the problem is that what each of the parties used to stand for has changed dramatically. If you shared in the democrat party liberal values of 30 years ago you are likely now wondering what the hell happened! (the change has been stark)

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I dunno - perhaps regretting my choices on who I voted for in my 20's I now see that Democrats hated women and minorities in 1860, 1960, and still do today......

I was totally indoctrinated out of grad school, but as I have actually learned about history, not just snippets and narrative, the party has always favored big, centralized government and social planning that causes more harm than good. Both parties have their war mongers, which is awful - their globalist or neocons - which tend to be people who don't understand the cultures of the places they seem to really enjoy bombing and killing people with zero concern for mistakes. Pushing them out at the primary level matters. But I just don't buy the big switch baloney after getting a real historical education that I didn't learn in any of my years of formal education.

I am a moderate - I don't think pure libertarianism would work much better than Marxism (which is to say, it wouldn't and lots of human suffering would follow). I see a role for the federal government that is much smaller than the role it currently plays. I will continue to vote for moderates, but they will be in the GOP primary. The more local the decisions, the more people can live how they want. Our federal government is too big, too owned by special interest and egotistical billionaires, and too clumsy to even attempt at policies that impact everyday lives. The only reason we can even tell it failed is because different places made different choices. Having such a powerful central government is really harming people in lots of areas.......

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This is so true! Democrats used to stand for the "little guy" and for freedom, and for not enriching and coddling large corporations. The Republicans now carry that banner, although in reality, I don't believe either party truly has the average American's best interests at heart.

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The Democrat Party is so far left that liberals moved over to the Republican Party and Trump.

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Your likely to now be a Trump supporter

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Well you know the saying: "If you are in your 20's and don't vote liberal you have no heart; and if you are in your 30's and still vote liberal you have no brain"

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Now you're pissed off at the media blah blah blah. But their bias, distortions, etc. were fine when directed at Trump all those years depriving him and the country of the normal treatment of a President, arriving to what we have today - chaos.

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President Trump helped us understand that we, the people, have common interests above party lines. Can we overcome the parties polarization and be above it? We need to learn to keep the political parties in check and they should do only what, we people, want. We have to be united (across party line) to do it.

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Trump was a stain on our country every bit as much as “Brandon” is now and they both promote the vaccines. Tribalism is not good for people who are united by the desire for real freedom and liberty to make one’s own medical decisions without government or corporate interference. Don’t be hard on Joyce. She is a good soul and so is the rest of the FLCCC. That’s what counts!

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a media created stain. President Trump endured abuse like no other president.

I am certain the hate derision and division was created in Obama's petri dish

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I agree he endured abuse like no other President, Rosemary. He also dished out plenty of abuse too. And it rolls off him like water off a duck’s back- that’s how narcissists like Obama and Trump respond…. It doesn’t bother them in the least how many people abuse them back. So one is a smoother criminal than the other. So what? They’re both criminals.

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Jan 14, 2022·edited Jan 14, 2022

Bravo for having the courage to continue to speak up and thank the Lord for doctors like you. Doctors that don’t just parrot what the inept Fauci, corrupt politicians, corporate media, big pharma, WHO and the CDC say. Whose flip-flopping, greed, censorship and corruption have caused much harm and pain to the American people. Truly, it is a sad day for America.

Know who you vote for in the next election. Let’s rid ourselves of career politicians (regardless of party) that have stood by and have done nothing to help those pleading for their lives or lives of loved ones. Especially vote those out of office that appear to have helped corrupt our health care system while people die needlessly. Those that helped censor the life saving protocols from becoming standard care should be thrown out of office and should never hold office again. Get involved now!

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Well done. Thank you for elucidating the experience of all of us who have been advocating FLCCC protocols. One compounding pharmacist I spoke with in Jan 2021 is now listed on the FLCCC Directory and the only one for miles. I continue my advocacy, but have learned to recognize immediately who is interested and who remains entranced. I pray daily for the spell to be broken and continue to give away IVM I buy from India; so cheap a retired nurse can afford it. Have to say I’ve seen good results including for long covid; less dramatic effect for the current outbreak.

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Outstanding essay! Ms Kamen, I applaud you, your superhuman efforts and your amazing team. The FLCCC is winning. Little by little you are getting through to people. I shout your name from every rooftop. Keep up the fight! You will win this war! You are saving so many thousands of people you must keep fighting! We will win!!!

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