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NAC can act as a flu prophylaxis (in older people) - prevents symptoms, not infection. The older people still got the flu, but 75% of them (79% placebo symptomatic, vs 25% NAC symptomatic) didn't know they had it.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9230243/

"N-acetylcysteine did not prevent A/H1N1 virus influenza infection but significantly reduced the incidence of clinically apparent disease."

Glutathione synthesis declines as we age. NAC + glycine (in this study) addressed this issue.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3155927/pdf/ajcn9430847.pdf

Did not know about anti-cancer properties!

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Just eat healthy food, exercise well, sleep 7 hours, keep weight at a healthy level and get enough vitamin D from the outdoors and you won't need supplements!

There's no amount of back-tracking that will repair the distrust in the 'Establishment' we've experienced since Covid 19 was designed and released late in 2019! No AMNESTY - just severe retribution.

Is the useless but sometimes DEADLY Covid injection destroying natural human health defences, making those that believed the injection was "SAFE AND EFFECTIVE" more liable to illness, casualties or death? Are we just collateral damage for those that mean us harm by total slavery and control?

The most egregious WHO act of Power Grabbing of every nation's sovereignty is on thev way!

The World Health Organisation trying to dominate our freedom of choice regarding health, mandated invasive medical treatment. Ultimately = Dictating Slavery by induced addiction to unnecessary but profit-making invasive medicines.

Bill Gates now 'owns' the WHO because he's the biggest benefactor (= INFLUENCER) to the now corrupt organisation. The WHO must be terminated as it's dubious control activity goes beyond recognition and common sense!

Bill Gates wants to dictate the need for more injections (Vaccines). He states "Vaccines are the most lucrative investment I ever made". He's also conscious that the planet is vastly over-populated. So join the dots and be very scared!

Big Pharma Vax maker’s avoidance of ‘LIABILITY’ for ‘POST VAX DEATHS’ is simply plain stupid and dangerous, unless I’m missing something??? It's now being used without consequence as their 'LICENCE TO KILL'.

The ‘TEMPORARY concession’ for avoiding all LIABILITY was issued for a previous failed Vax disaster = Swine Flu, way back in 1976. 'Temporary' equates in Big Pharma parlance to forever = 46 years and counting.

After 50+ US citizens died Big Pharma Vax maker’s ‘LIABILITY’ for ‘POST VAX DEATHS’ is plain Common Sense! Unless I’m missing something???

So why is the POST Covid VAX DEATH TOLL running out of control with MILLIONs of POST VAX DEATHS World wide?

LIABILITY MUST BE REINTRODUCED IMMEDIATELY, BEFORE ANOTHER DEADLY JAB IS INJECTED.

Mick from Hooe (UK) Unjabbed to live longer.

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What you may not understand, is that many supplements help your organs function! When you are deficient in a nutrient, or have genetic SNPs, which most everyone has, supplements are extremely helpful. I have been studying natural health for 44 years.

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Thank you for this informative and easy to understand post! Would you be able to share which brands you recommend?

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Douglas Labs, Designs for Health, Klaire Labs are all used by practitioners. Hope that helps. I use these brands.

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Hi Myriam. Resurrecting this old comment thread for a question.

What do you look for in assessing the "good" producers/makers/products of this and other supplements, from the "bad". My first criterion is where it's made. China is an automatic disqualifier, as are the ridiculously low priced and the non-vegan versions. What else do you look for?

I ask, because you recommended those three specific brands. What sets them apart.

Thanks in advance.

CTD

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Thank you, Myriam!

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My pleasure, Genevieve!

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They each make different products specific to their brands. Designs for Health does not make all the products Klaire Labs makes, and so on with Douglas Labs. Hope that helps

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I buy mine from Life extension

I really like their products. My Dr recommends them for good supplements

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They were not my favorites.

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Thank you, Ronda! I have heard that they are high quality too.

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TY

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"get enough vitamin D from the outdoors"

That's simply not possible for anyone above about 35 degrees of latitude during the winter. The sun is simply never high enough in the sky for the UV to make it through.

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I was in Florida the entire time, and I wasn’t making enough vitamin D!

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I was playing tennis in the sun in sunny South Florida, 5 to 6 times a week and spending weekends at the beach with my children.

I was found to be extremely deficient in vitamin D. I’m a health practitioner, so I eat an anti-inflammatory diet and exercise regularly, take no meds. I was given a starting dose of 50,000 iu of Vitamin D to make up for my deficiency. This was more than 10 years ago. It is not as simple as getting sun every day.

I supplement with Vitamin D and several other vitamins, daily. My vitamin D level is now above 80 and I plan to keep it that way!

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I have actinic keratoses all over my face, have had both basal and squamous cell carcinomas removed; it's from being active outdoors in summer, especially kayaking. I have Nordic skin so all that sun, if it's intense enough to give me skin cancer, should have given me plenty of Vit D, right? Well it didn't. My measured D three years ago was below 20. I was put on 50000 IU D2 for six months, then tested 32ng/ml. SInce then have supplemented with 2000-5000 IU D3 and last measurement four months ago, D level was 52.5 ng/ml. Truly, not enough to "get out there in the sun".

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Did you wear sunscreen? I am olive skinned and it wasn’t enough sun for me to raise my vitamin D level. Now my level is 80. You might have a genetic SNP that prevents you from absorbing vitamin D. Are you taking a D3K2 supplement?

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I often put a Ti-Zn screen on my nose and cheeks, wear a pretty good hat that covers sides of face and forehead if I'm going to be on water for a few hours. But usually don't bother with sun screen.

I'm now taking D3/K2, 5000IU/100ugm.

I may have genetic problem generating vitD. But I'm reading even Israelis have trouble getting enough sun to get sufficient D. I think the 'just get out in the sun" advice is pretty useless without testing.

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The sun is valuable for setting your circadian rhythm if you go out in the morning, and being outdoors in the sun and fresh air is a healthy habit, but I agree as far as vitamin D is concerned.

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I disagree. I practice what you preach and the supplements applicable to my conditions help me immensely.

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what you are missing is that the so-called ‘vaccines’ are not legally considered pharmaceuticals (at least not in the USA) but US Dept of Defense contracted biologic ‘prototypes/ countermeasures,’ not subject to laws and regulations meant to ensure the safety & efficacy of pharmaceuticals:

https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/biomedical-security-state-and-state

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Fun fact! We learned about NAC from Dr. Angie Farella during a short interview a while back. She mentioned NAC quickly, in passing, and in retrospect seemed somewhat fearful that providing more details about NAC would result in loss of supply.

We started taking NAC shortly after that interview, along with the other supplements you mentioned + Vitamin D + exercise + careful diet. So far, we’ve stayed ridiculously healthy (following pre-NAC bouts with VERY bad Covid in Jan 2020 and not-so-bad Covid in Feb 2022).

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NAC is available on Amazon again, for anyone who had to find new sources when the FDA made them take it down. (I whooped with joy when I found it on there again. Amazon isn't the best company by a long shot, but it does make curious things such a wide range supplements more available to more people.)

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Excellent information! NAC taken with Sarcosine helps with Schizophrenia as well.

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Excellent content! I’ve taken NAC for years, since learning about it in my Functional Nutrition Studies. One of my daughters recently tried to get some in New York City at a Walgreens, and they told her it was a prescription medication!

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I get mine be on subscription from Amazon or Walmart no problem. Learned about it from UK publication What Doctors Don’t Tell you and then MedCram (you tube) in Spring of 2020.

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Careful where u buy it from. Many supplements come from China and who knows what is really in them! I’ve read that third party tested supplements are the best to buy. Get my NAC from Dr Mercola. Last time I got it from Dr Stella and it had a very strong smell. I do worry about supplements being compromised. If anyone on here has reliable sources for supple to please do post the brand name and where you sourced it from!!

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I think NAC normally has an extremely strong smell.

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I heard that. The one I bought from Dr Stella was very strong! Dr Mercolas brand much milder. Wonder if the stronger smell means it works better? Anyone know? Dr Mercolas brand adds a couple ingredients also so could be way the smell less strong.

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Check out my comment on NAC dated Dec 21. I and Dr, Mumper believe that the strong smell signifies that the NAC has been oxidized and that pill or bottle or brand shouldn't be used. (NAC is a sulfur-containing amino acid; it's the sulfur you smell when it breaks free of the molecule). I find that NOW's NAC doesn't smell.

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If it has sulphur, it's going to smell. Has nothing to do with the oxidation of the sulphur. Sulphur stinks, period.

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The smell is normal, seems to develop when exposed to air over time.

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Exactly. The NAC oxidizes. Some brands are better stabilized than others.

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I think I read on Dr. Mercola's blog that the smell is because it has a "sulphur" atom in it. Is not "N" the atomic abbreviation for sulphur?

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N is not the symbol for sulfur, it's the symbol for nitrogen. "S" is the symbol for sulfur. So in N-acetylcysteine, it probably stands for the one nitrogen atom in the compound.

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Interesting observation. I've read that the only kind that is any good are the individually wrapped effervescent ones because they are protected from oxidation. But those are exceedingly expensive and hard to find. The pillhform does come packaged with a dessicant, but that could be of limited usefulness. The only form of NAC I've seen used in studies has been the effervescent form.

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Are you in NYC?

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Small city in Texas Hill Country

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NY is a medical mafia. Has been for decades! Practitioners there can not order several functional tests for their clients/patients.

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Watch out for the gel caps, they are putting Nanotech in them. There has also been Nanotech found in baking soda and other common food items. Clouds are likely being seeded with nanotech. So...we need to look, here is how to see it with optical microscopes discussion https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4900484 nanos +5g = ded people

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I am so glad to see Dr. Turner's comments on NAC. I'd like to add to them. This ties into Dr. Mumper's slides on last Wednesday's webcast too, and Dr. Kory's comments on glutathione. (I have been reading nutrition since 1970 and have been using virtually every nutritional supplement she mentioned.)

When I take NAC as Dr. Robert Atkins recommended in his book Vita-Nutrient Solution, I get a subtle increase in heat that lasts for hours. His top recommendation for generating glutathione was to divide the following into three equal portions taken near meals: 3,000 mg. NAC, 300 mcg selenium, 300 mg lipoid acid, 100 mg. riboflavin, 200 mg. pyridoxine, and 3,000 mg L-glutamine. I know it works for me because I have a north EurAsian gene that is called "inefficient;" it produces more bodily heat when generating energy, very efficient in fact in cold climates. Pantothenic acid also makes me warmer; so does NADH (more on this a bit later); all do so in their roles generating energy.

Dr. Mumper said that when NAC smells bad, it means it has been oxidized and should be avoided. I have long thought the same thing and shun sulfuric-smelling NAC pills; can't stomach them anyway.

I note in the comments that some people have problems with NAC. Perhaps it's a problem with the other ingredients or it is oxidized, so switching brands might help. Or their own biochemistry doesn't like it, or a low dose is sufficient.

Dr. Kory expressed the widespread opinion that GSH can't be absorbed when taken as an oral supplement. However:

Dr. Harry Demopoulos patented a stabilized form of GSH in the mid 1990s and I learned about it when Dr. Robert Atkins interviewed him in his radio show. I know it worked for me because about an hour after taking one of Dr. Demopoulos's GSH pills, I got a strong surge of heat energy.

His pills were individually blister wrapped with nitrogen in the capsule. If memory serves, it had vitamin C too. I can't find his product today, but the company Bio-Chemical GSH sells a book co-authored by Dr. Demopoulos, and it sells GSH with vitamin C in individual wrappers which it says are filled with nitrogen; it is quite expensive.

Setria makes a GSH that it says has been shown to raise relevant markers in blood tests. Several brands market it.

Saving the best for last, NADH recycles GSH (and other anti-oxidants), and it works somewhat like an enzyme, for NADH and NAD+ cycle repeatedly in the body. I get about five hours of heat energy starting about five hours after taking it, just as Dr. Birkmayer said on Dr. Atkins' radio show. That was as a pill to be taken on an empty stomach. It is now sold as a sublingual lozenge, usually under the brand name Enada. I get NADH in Swanson's brand.

If any of this is new to you or otherwise of interest, I suggest you check out the Health section, especially my very broad and deep A Fuller View of Natural Anti-Infectives, in my substack, The Menelaus Gambit (Seeing Beneath the Illusions).

https://ernestdlieberman.substack.com

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Yes, NAC works for our family. Bought months of it when saw FDA trying to make it off limits. Anything they aggressively try make off limits compels me to take a thorough, analytical review of it - because it flags it as legislate cure of something, these days.

After seeing a smiling Cheshire Cat photo of Fraudci with Bill Gates of Hell Senior, I truly wonder if these eugenicists have been convertly running their adult culling programs of old, using the government cloak of health “care”. Gates Snr remarked he was in awe of how Rothschilds architected a “caring marketing campaign” and tax shelter structure for his “public face” while making millions behind the scenes diverting funds from one box to another. Notice Gates Jnr is using the exact same framework.

Their murderous abortion program of innocent, helpless babies has continued to convert nicely from openly eugenist to nicely rebranded name, however wouldn’t it be so clever to extend that with vaccines and culling protocols in hospitals for adults too.

And now as we hear Trudeu and gang are promoting euthanasia in Canadian programs - a caring, “just kill yourself “ to save us money program . I listened to a health minister mention offfering it to the poor, and the depressed, and of course the old useless sick class.

It’s disgusting and inhumane that these sociopaths are running the show. I remember a day when medical ethics meant something. Why are we allowing these monsters to pervert justice and downgrade humanity to subhuman animals ripe for slaughter.

My mind has has been enlightened these past years of lock down, and my soul is deeply saddened and disappointed .

I am no longer naive about the evils that run most of our agencies -

even though many folk who work a few layers down are decent and unaware of their devious schemes. At the end of the day, I avoid doctors and hospitals at all costs now.

Decent, trustworthy, ethical doctors like Marik, Kory, Mc cullough and others need to create multi-state private hospitals, and private medical plan that is NOT Gov funded, therefore free of their mandates - millions of us would support that! OR we need a complete OVERHAUL of the present leadership in every sector of this country.

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Can products like nattokinase and NAC be taken together, since they both should be taken away from food in order to be most effective? Or will they impede each other's effectiveness if taken together, away from food?

I currently take nattokinase twice a day as an alternative to aspirin and statins. Hence the question.

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Anyone know what the "N" in N-Acetyl Cysteine stands for?

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Jaye is right. I looked it up. It means that the acetyl group attaches to the nitrogen atom in the molecule.

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Thanks to you both.

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Nitrogen?

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Seems no one is telling. Same for the "L" in L-Acetyl Cysteine. Odd.

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I would bet L stands for levo. It's not an uncommon prefix in chemicals

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I grow much of our veg & some fruit grown in our garden. It's 1/2 an acre of ex-farmland so in pristine condition. I add well rotted cow & horse dung to give the soil (which I originally dredged from a very old pond when we converted our barn into a dwelling). So I'm sure the soil is 'extra rich' in nutriment that provides us with wonderful produce.

I don't believe in 'Supplements' if you can get the basics naturally.

I'm 77 and retired from playing soccer twice each week when I reached 60. I retired from work at 57!

Perhaps I'm lucky but each to his/her own.

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You might be able to get nutrients from food grown in Britain, but here even the corrupt USDA admits that soil depletion has led to nutrients being halved in foods, and that's not to mention glyphosate. I genuinely think one of the many factors messing up teenagers so badly is that at the moment of growth spurt, they are not getting the nutrition they need. This is really fixable, whereas the evils of social media are not so easily fixed.

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Thanks 'Kitten'! I'm aware of some of the 'flankers' Big Pharma enjoy in order to avoid safety and efficacy issues. Including links with Bio-Warfare technologies that apply to virus experimentation, modification and 'Gain of Function' experiments that increase the potential impact of viruses and other illnesses on human beings, but it's too much to include all elements of deceit within my comments! Thanks for questioning the 'omissions'! Mick from Hooe (UK) Unjabbed and looking for Schwab!

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I know this is a pretty old post, but if anyone is still monitoring the feed...

Any thoughts on powder versions verses pills/capsules??

Thanks for the work you are doing!!

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I had an anaphylactic reaction years ago to guaifenesin, the common expectorant. Now I'm fighting walking pneumonia with NAC. It is really a very effective expectorant at 1200-1800 mg/day. I was relying on peppermint tea and ginger tea until I discovered this article and the NAC is so much more effective. Thank you!

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