I’m a professional mediator. My career is finding common ground and I’m good at it. However, in the case of Covid, as hard as I try, I can find none with people who want to isolate, punish, and criminalize those who disagree with them. I can understand and tolerate (with grace and pity) those ensnared by fear, but I can’t find an inch of common ground with haters who hate me for my beliefs, and I’m tired of trying.
Mel, this is very interesting. I’m not a professional negotiator. My experience has been that they can’t, just can’t, let go of what they were told. They took the shots and don’t want to hear a bad thing about it.
It’s “non-rational escalation of commitment”. They would rather hold onto their foolish thinking than admit what they did ‘might’ have been wrong.
I completely understand where you are coming from.
Consider the fear behind all of this and how we all react to that in different ways, based on our own experiences and tools. Many may not want to hear negative things about the jab because they may be afraid that these bad things could be going on inside them. They may be afraid that they may have made a terrible mistake for self or, in convincing others to receive it. They may have a lack of confidence in self and feel they can’t think or feel outside of what they know. They just may have no love for self and therefore, can’t share that with others. The list goes on, but, until we can all choose to feel what the other may be feeling and see where their actions may be coming from, this divide may just get bigger. We need to SEE each other to find the balance and come together. I realize that my words here may seem a bit woo-who. I have parted ways with friends of past through this pandemic that just couldn’t choose to look through my lens and understand my point of view as I had theirs. I wish them well. I wish them no harm. I wish for them the ability and courage to look inside themselves and heal in ways that could allow that self love to reflect outward to others. The labels “right” and “wrong” can bring up one’s defenses and cause a combative reaction. If one has an inner struggle going on, it is very difficult to move forward in thought or conversation, from a grounded position or with openness. This pandemic has helped me to see just how much we are all struggling within, and until we as individuals , choose to heal there 1st, it is difficult to move forward.
If they accepted any of your (our) provable facts they'd be admitting their stupidity and gullibility, which is their most important possession = their pride!
The 'believers' in Covid & 'SAFE and EFFECTIVE' (sometimes DEADLY) INJECTIONS can persuade themselves that all is well, Big Pharma, Doctors, the Governments, Vax makers are all working tireless to save our lives from a (man-enhanced) disease (no more lethal than FLU). Nothing can sway their steadfast confidence in the matter. It's nothing to do with the New World Order, Great Reset, greed or financial gain!
We know of several people with POST VAX health complications (Adverse Reactions). It's happening to friends, but fortunately and incredibly, we do not personally know of deaths post vax. These issues maybe permanent!
We have a local friend, (a dentist) that recently had a Covid jab then lost his memory as well as some other faculties, such as balance, ability to talk or understand. Fortunately, he has recovered somewhat, but we don't know if his memory will 'repair'? His Wife was assured by a relative - a doctor 'expert' that the problem must have been due to her hubby catching Flu & Covid simultaneously! This is how the vax supporters avoid addressing difficult questions = the truth. They believe, and can somehow avoid questioning the narrative!
Doctors used to have pride, dignity, compassion, honesty and the trust of their patients. Their 'oath' was 'DO NOI HARM'. This was way back in 2019, before they received the WEF New World Order instructions to promote EXPERIMENTAL depopulation injections, incorrectly referred to as VACCINES.
Doctors now seem intent in enforcing deadly but useless, ineffective injections into babies that gain no benefit, but can die as a consequence of the injections. This immoral, disgusting, inexplicable insensitivity identifies all that choose not to speak out as MURDERERS!
Now we've sussed the con as a universal CULL (Depopulation) of humanity to reduce Global Warming, which would leave the remaining COVID VAX survivors (and those that joined the dots and saw the BIG LIE = THE GREAT UNVAXXED), as Servants (SLAVES) to our newly 'self appointed' WEF (Elite) masters.
I'm too old to physically physically retaliate but I continue to let the people know how corrupt the World Health Organisation has become since Bill Gates (biggest investor/benefactor/influencer) redesigned their Mission from helping mankind health, into helping to double his fortune by declaring false Diseases, Pandemics and new reasons for 'inventing deadly cures' called 'vaccine'.
Not worth taking another chance with the 'man enhanced' bio-weapon called 'Covid 19 VAX' (Fauci's Gain of Function experimental depopulation project). The 'miraculous' but useless (frequently DEADLY) Covid vax - invented at the "speed of science" (probably simultaneously in the adjacent Wuhan lab). Don't contribute to furthering the Pfizer's directors' wealth by taking yet another health destructing jab.
LIABILITY must be reintroduced for DEADLY INJECTION MAKERS because the 'Temporary concession' for Swine Flu (1976) was a total DEADLY FAILURE but minuscule in proportion to the Covid Vax that's now killing MILLIONS!
EXEMPTION from LIABILITY is nothing more that a 'LICENCE TO KILL', while Big Pharma increase their, already massive, fortunes.
I’m curious about you being a “mediator”. In my mid life, while thinking about potential career change, I wondered about how one becomes a mediator and what the job entails. I say that because I tend to see all sides in a discussion/argument/whatever. (So much that I have a hard time making decisions) I feel these traits might lead me to being a good mediator. Does one have to go to law school?
Agreed the duped were the ones calling for our (the unjabbed/unmasked ) heads , jobs, right to worship, access to life saving medical treatments, etc.
Yes the regime brainwashed them, but these sheeple are the ones who would happily throw the switch to exterminate you.
To be fair, this article is not suggesting forgiveness or compassion...but to find common ground with an "enemy". It is a slippery slope though...because once you make yourself see these people, as something they are not...by their own admissions...then you drop your guard and become a victim of them and the regim,e once again.
You are seeing this now, with people who are not seriously considering the possibility of returning mandates and all the punishments that go with them...for non-compliance.
I always thought after the second time she pulled it away, the next time he should have run up and kicked her in the head...my 6 year old brain knew even then...don't trust the regime or those associated with it!!
I was devastated with grief when one of my adult children told me I had poisoned their mind for most of their life with my cynicism about vaccines and government corruption, and they were DONE with me. I had begged them not to take the experimental shots (with independent scientific evidence and logic) and that was their response to me. A year and a half later I did try to find the common ground Jenna thinks exists, because my heart ached for restoration of the affection that I always thought was inviolable. Well, I learned there is no bridge possible when one person truly believes it's acceptable to punish other persons (like me, their own mother) by restricting their civil and human rights if those citizens refuse to submit to government-mandated invasive and irreversible health interventions. For the record, I was never 'confused', 'terrified', or trying to avoid a treatable viral infection. There was no properly done 'science' for anyone to 'trust'. But I did think we all should uphold the Nuremberg Code and Helsinki Declaration on informed consent. I don't think that qualifies as 'wanting others to see things my way'. I think it's pretty darn obvious that no one should see things Dr. Mengele's way.
So sorry, Aliss! I raised my 4 children holistically and 3 of them took 2 shots and forbade me to send them more information (I had been since mid-2020). Only my youngest admits she made a mistake and will watch or read things I continue to share with her. One daughter and the partner of another, have painful menstrual issues to this day, from shots they took in 2021. It’s distressing.
All 3 of mine took at least 2 shots each. My sister was also forbidden to send info, ask about her grown kids' health, or see her only grandchild. Her younger son, 39, collapsed with sepsis, endocarditis and strings of clots in both arms after his second booster (4th shot), was in hospital for weeks and is now on anti-clotting drugs for life, chronically fatigued and short of breath. He and his wife refuse to acknowledge the obvious cause. And of course, Auntie Aliss is not allowed to speak about it either.
Unbelievable! So sad! That’s some Powerful, social engineered mind-control they succumbed to. The monsters succeeded in the destruction of many familial relationships! I never wavered and hope they and others eventually realize the truth one day.
I told everyone I knew, that was even thinking about getting the jab...up your life and long term healthcare insurance...before the insurance companies insert a clause for covid-anything. All these injured will become the new residence in the assisted living and memory care facilities around the world.
It's a sad reality you are dealing with, but I see it in a similar light to my discussing my Christian faith. I don't try to force it, and even though it isn't easy I accept the reality they will possibly always reject Christ, and I move on. If they want to continue to associate, fine; if they don't, equally fine.
IMMENSELY SORRY for the unjust heartaches SO MANY are being subjected to for speaking TRUTH. May God provide comfort and peace for your broken hearts as you continue to gently and respectfully stand!
MFH, Mass Formation Hypnosis is a lot like spike proteins. From "ScienceNews Explores", "... spike proteins latch the virus onto a cell. This allows them to get entry into those cells.". MFH is very difficult to treat.
Aliss, your story and so many like it, reaffirm my decision to not have kids, years ago. No offense to you parents out there. I think it's a thankless job (as is highlighted by Aliss' story) and would be damn near impossible to do well, in today's world.
This will only get worse, as the regime refines if methods and practices of indoctrination and propaganda dissemination. Think of all the kids (k-12) who now see this dystopia, as normal. Add to that the percentage of parents in Karen-ville, reinforcing these regime dogmas and you have generations who are primed (groomed) to pick-up where their parents leave off.
We are once again in a time where children will happily report their parents for wrong think and crimes against the regime.
Best of luck to you parents out there. I'm sure for you, this adds another layer to the crazy cake, our world has become.
I don’t have kids and often times regret it, so thank you for reminding me why I was always leery of reproducing. I can’t imagine raising children in these dystopian times...
I’m sorry your child is so brainwashed. I actually have the opposite situation with my mother, she’s constantly pressuring my to get all the latest vaccines and boosters. She firmly believes they’re helping and can’t understand why I’m so reluctant. Luckily she’s much more tolerant that what your child seems to express.
Thank you for this Jenna. The one similarity that is seriously lacking is the one where we once would read each others stuff and have a civil discussion about it.
Now, the other side, flat out refuses to read or discuss anything 😢
A really good analysis. I’ve been finding being cheeky sometimes works in building bridges on this. I had a situation during the pandemic where my ultra left wing son (right wing hating) and my old school authoritarian Thatcherite Father ( left wing hating) both were berating my unvaccinated status in pretty much the same way, in the same language and from a shared narrative…and I subsequently took every opportunity to remind them of this 😊…it seems to give them a pause for thought and maybe lessened some distance, to me.
There are a few things in common between sides but far more not in common. One side brutally mistreated the other, depriving them of their livlihood, the right to earn a living, and subjected others to inhumane forms of discrimination. One side wanted debate and discussion, the other side responded with silence, censorship, and closed minds which are still now only opening very slowly and reluctantly, one side looks at mounting evidence of medical horrors and continues denial with a charade of absurd causes, the other has known clearly all along why. What is not yet known is how all of this plays out in the future, whether illness and rates of death will continue to increase for the injected, how badly future generations will be affected, and to what extent the non-injected will be affected through the cumulative effects of shedding.
Can't we all just get along? Not now. If there comes a time when this is OVER, then there is the chance for reaching a full understanding and reconciling together, but for now a looming dark cloud hangs over humanity. Many out there still believe the non-injected are walking bags of lethal virus, and Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates are smiling.
All of us were not actually scared of Covid. For those of us who actually take good care of our health, a strong immune system is first nature to us. My wife and I did the exact opposite of the CDC recommendations. We did not wear masks where it was not required, and we spent a lot of time outdoors getting lots of early morning sun and exercise. No way I submit to a shot prepared under an emergency use authorization, and with barely any control group. I knew I would get Covid, and did, and had an “immediate response” medical plan in place using two of the forbidden drugs. I started that plan the day before I actually tested positive (my wife had already tested positive), tested positive the next day, had three days of extreme fatigue, felt almost normal on the fourth day, and tested negative on the fifth day, all of this at age 64. It’s my educated guess that my system now recognizes that I’ve had Covid and is fully prepared when I’m exposed again, all due to mother nature.
I could’ve written this myself in terms of how we take our health seriously in this household. Shamed by former friends in the “killing Grandma” scenario, I reminded them I Am Grandma. I’ve had 3 bouts with Covid starting 12/19. Crappy but short lived and I’ve had worse flu. My (pushing) 74 year old husband, now out power-walking 8 miles in preparation to walk a half marathon, had it twice. He nearly died of flu related pneumonia last January because the keepers of our medical care said “Covid”, go home and take Tylenol. Only by driving the doctor crazy with calls over two weeks did we finally get a chest x ray and antibiotics. And after a 13 pound weight loss and unrelenting fever for 18 days, he was himself again after 12 hours. We have a new (not employed by a hospital) doctor. And what little trust in the system we ever had is absolutely gone.
Oh yes..we were doing zinc Quercetin, D3, C, selenium and NAC . Basically FLCCC protocol. I have those all in packets ready to go if we need it again. It’s hard to think straight when you’re sick. M sweet neighbor, a herbalist, makes a concoction of onions, cloves and I don’t know what all- I try to take a T a day in warm water but definitely when sick. Good to share these things.
Only difference is I never took THE RAPE up my nose.
The last MD I fired was 3 years ago when he pulled out the RAPE KIT with long POISON end to stick in to my brain apparently is what I thought when this young MD pulled out the long stick.
I was there for something totally unrelated.
I told him that stick will end up in his eye if he thinks to RAPE me with it.
He called security and I left having fired my 8th MD in 10 years.
I fought the REPTILE BRAIN BOUGHT OFF GLOBALIST WHORE MEDICAL MAFIA CARTEL in CHINADA for 20 years before that.
I've been studying and implementing nutrient dense mineral rich super foods for many years.
Been ARESSTED several times before CORONA CULTISTS lost their tiny brain washed minds over a flu.
We are on our own in Ontario CHINADA as there are no MDs available even if you want one.
Get prepared folks for one hell of battle in the coming year.
I know a guy who might be your long lost twin. I used to pick on him about his health care fanaticism; but covid woke me up. My friend is an oddball; and so am I! Take care and quit sending us all that cold air!!!
The true sign of superior intelligence is spraying sulfur dioxide (I think that's what it is) in the atmosphere to reflect sunlight, supposedly to slow global warming, and at the same time counting on solar power to provide electricity. Brilliant!!!
I envy your take-no prisoners attitude! I would have liked to avoid testing, unfortunately I was only able to avoid getting needle-raped by agreeing to get nose-raped every two weeks (if I wanted to stay employed).
I didn't have to make that choice as I am 66 now but the choice would be easy as I'm very educated on so called Vaccines
Which by the way have always been poison
Coming from the Thalidomide Era I remembered as my friend in grade 3 Jimmy had a half arm and other things wrong which mattered not to me in grade 3 as we were buddies in the sand box.
I would let them fire me if it was jab or job, but test or job I was willing to do.
Not a decision to take lightly, as I am a firefighter and in addition to it being a job that was hard to get, I am now past the age limit for being a new-hire at other departments.
Had they not approved my religious exemption "request" (why the heck should I have to beg, in order to hold to the tenants of my religion) I'd have been out of work. I refused to get jabbed or tested.
Back to the original premise of this post...how do you build a bridge with those people??
Those who were pushing the mandates...to include the bleating Karens & Kens around us...said do what I tell you or you're fired...so they had no issue with stripping you of the ability to pay your bills, feed/clothe/house yourself and family, buy meds, gas, etc.
These same people (around the world) incarcerated people (with no crime having been committed) because they would not comply...the sheeple gleefully bleated as they watched it happen.
And WE need to build bridges with them?? Nope!!
It will be a cold day in Dante's Hell, before they get a bridge, rope, or monkey turd, from my side of the divide.
They have shown who they are and given you a glimpse of the extremes they will go to. Remember, they were kept in check, by the rogue cell camera and stories leaking out. The next few rounds, will be more draconian and you may just find, that people who don't comply...disappear.
Beware...The bridges you build, may very well be the one you walk over, on your way to the gulag or gallows.
You got a religious exemption from testing? On what grounds did you object?
I got a religious exemption for the jab but the condition was I had to get tested every two weeks. I never even thought to try for an exemption from the testing!
It was an exemption from the jab mandate. I'm sure the trade off (especially for gov contractor employees) would have been testing...which I had planned to fight, but would have made them fire me, over not testing....especially since our company went 100% virtual...excluding assembly line employees.
I have no doubt that one of two things or both were true.
1. The tests (as was shown) were loaded or contaminated, to give false positives...allowing them to ramp up fake numbers and push the despotism even further.
2. The swabs were laced with mRna or LNP, in order to ensure that EVERYONE would be infected.
Paul, why did you get tested? If you felt bad didn't you know you had a bug of some type? Between the fact there were so many false-negatives, or whatever, and the fact you probably had no idea if the testing apparatus was treated, wasn't that a bit reckless?
Agree. Taken as many covid “tests” as covid “vaccines”. Zero tests = zero covid. Sniffed out corona bologna from the very start. Had many nice uncrowded days of travel during restrictions.
No, we can't all just get along. The "tolerant left" wanted to get us fired, socially isolated, forbidden entrance to food stores and health clinics, forbidden medical treatment and life-saving diagnosis and surgery, because we would not take an experimental injection with unlisted ingredients using a novel DNA-changing technology. They actually want us dead. We cannot live with them.
Common ground with people who aren’t even interested in listening to what you have to say?
Not likely.
It’s likely different for those who at least acknowledge that there even are at least two views of the story. But we can find common ground only with those who also think we have something in common worth sharing.
Those Chinese videos of people dropping in the streets should have been one of the first red flags. People who get a pneumonia like illness are not bebopping around town. They've been sick in a bed for the past week. It was to me, obviously fake.
It was also not a totally new virus. A bit of research and you'd know that we've 4 known corona viruses that make up 20-30 % of the common cold and that it was 80% similar to SARsCoV1. That is was a single strand RNA virus, not unfamiliar at all.
A bit more research and you would have found out that in Italy the average age of death was 82 and that 95% of those had 2 or more comorbidities.
You would have found Dr. Ionaniddis and his IFR.
You would have remembered the men who stormed the beaches at Normandy who had an almost 100% chance of death. But they charged anyway. For freedom. For our freedom.
Yes, I know; you're trying to build bridges, but we were not all afraid.
Yup, my biggest fear as soon as the lockdowns came was that they would make mandatory vaccines for everyone. Luckily my fears haven’t come true, yet...
Based upon how governments, businesses and media have embraced the lies about anthropogenic global warming, I'm not holding my breath they will repent their lies about COVID-19 and the experimental gene therapies.
Sorry Jenna, you can try and build all the bridges you want, but if the people on the opposite shore are waiting to ostracize, incarcerate and (if they had their way) exterminate you...it becomes self sacrifice, to show we are the bigger people.
Would we have told the Jews in Nazi Germany...you need to build bridges, find common ground...and if they still persecute you, then show you are the bigger people and walk silently to the showers...knowing you are right.
Extending olive branches is fine, but when you are facing an enemy that is HAPPY to snatch it from your hand and grind it to dust under a jackboot, as they deprive you of a job, freedom of association, life saving healthcare and freedom to gather and worship your God...then building that bridge is a fool's errand.
For the indoctrinated sheeple, it is about finding control and importance in a orchestrated agenda...that was sold to them as a tribe forming message..."for the greater good...do this and you can be a hero...you can defeat the big mean unknown...you are part of the solution."
The orchestrators...as we see now...had a larger agenda and plan, that had NOTHING to do with a fake pandemic or the health of the global population.
Yet their sheeple foot soldiers (those friends and family members we are called to build bridges with), being blinded by the props of the movement...masks, mandates, jab stickers, memes, tweets, dancing nurses and doctors, designer masks, controlled opposition and more...are like the blm/antifa rioters, that ravaged our cities. With little to no understanding, that they were the distracting, destabilizing arm of the regime...they went merrily through towns and cities, wreaking havoc and chaos...and were funded and sent, by the liberal, globalists, who now send the pro jab/mask/mandate sheeple into our midst.
Some life lessons are hard. We have become a society, where EVERYTHING must be happy, joyous, rainbows and ferry farts. If it isn't then the sky is falling...if we all don't like one another, then we HAVE TO build a bridge...compromise...turn the other cheek, be the bigger person...at the peril of ourselves and our families...if that's what THEY say is required.
Here is one more aspect to this bridge building, that is never discussed...it's always the kumbaya part, the let's make nice, let's all just get along...part that is focused on.
When you build a bridge to the shores of Karen-stan, you're not just reaching out across a divide...you're building a direct path for the crazies, into the heart of your Normal-commonsense-ville.
Ever wonder how we got to the point of drag queen story hour, or groomers sitting on school boards, in class rooms, in the teacher's unions???
Bridges were built, to find common ground with the deviants of the past..."sure I don't agree with Mr. Johnson wearing a dress and make-up at the local playground...but we both agree taxes are too high, the war in Afghanistan should end and the Bears will go to the Superbowl this year...he really isn't so so different from me"
The day the sheeple in Karen-stan have their crazy ideas (mask/jabs/boosters)...WITHOUT the punitive cudgels attached to them (mandates/lockdowns, loss of liberties/freedoms/worship/jobs/medical access), that's the day I'll consider building a bridge.
Until then, they can keep dropping like flies, in a billowing cloud of pest spray.
Biden and other officials went a long way in leading the charge to demonizing those who declined the vaccine, even promising a dark winter of illness and death as punishment.
Whatever you use to forgive friends and family who wronged you can never apply to those who abused their authority or otherwise had a responsibility to act.
Lines were crossed that never should have been crossed.
I'm not going to elaborate here but one problem I have with the embracing of "a bridge" is due to the reality they are often one-way. A one-way bridge is usually used to create compromise; and principle is diluted.
And it’s ok for it to be one way. It’s not necessary to keep score, and there doesn’t have to be compromise. You don’t even have to agree to disagree. You’ve honestly put your position on the table in a conversation and folks will be accepting of that or they won’t.
The real issue is socialist governments lying (I know, it's redundant).
How long did it take for governments to acknowledge tobacco usage is hazardous to health? Who profitted?
Who's profiting from AGW and covid lies?
Hayek wrote an essay regarding how the 'intellectuals' are attracted to socialism because they can't find a way to earn a living as an 'intellectual' in the free market.
I’m a professional mediator. My career is finding common ground and I’m good at it. However, in the case of Covid, as hard as I try, I can find none with people who want to isolate, punish, and criminalize those who disagree with them. I can understand and tolerate (with grace and pity) those ensnared by fear, but I can’t find an inch of common ground with haters who hate me for my beliefs, and I’m tired of trying.
Mel, this is very interesting. I’m not a professional negotiator. My experience has been that they can’t, just can’t, let go of what they were told. They took the shots and don’t want to hear a bad thing about it.
It’s “non-rational escalation of commitment”. They would rather hold onto their foolish thinking than admit what they did ‘might’ have been wrong.
To admit they were wrong is to face their own mortality and that of their loved ones head on. Most people can not do that.
Very true… that ability can be gained if one chooses to work toward it. Not many like to feel like they were wrong or they did wrong to others.
It’s about admitting your were duped. They can’t admit that.
Sadly true.. they just don’t have those tools
I completely understand where you are coming from.
Consider the fear behind all of this and how we all react to that in different ways, based on our own experiences and tools. Many may not want to hear negative things about the jab because they may be afraid that these bad things could be going on inside them. They may be afraid that they may have made a terrible mistake for self or, in convincing others to receive it. They may have a lack of confidence in self and feel they can’t think or feel outside of what they know. They just may have no love for self and therefore, can’t share that with others. The list goes on, but, until we can all choose to feel what the other may be feeling and see where their actions may be coming from, this divide may just get bigger. We need to SEE each other to find the balance and come together. I realize that my words here may seem a bit woo-who. I have parted ways with friends of past through this pandemic that just couldn’t choose to look through my lens and understand my point of view as I had theirs. I wish them well. I wish them no harm. I wish for them the ability and courage to look inside themselves and heal in ways that could allow that self love to reflect outward to others. The labels “right” and “wrong” can bring up one’s defenses and cause a combative reaction. If one has an inner struggle going on, it is very difficult to move forward in thought or conversation, from a grounded position or with openness. This pandemic has helped me to see just how much we are all struggling within, and until we as individuals , choose to heal there 1st, it is difficult to move forward.
Well said Mel!!
If they accepted any of your (our) provable facts they'd be admitting their stupidity and gullibility, which is their most important possession = their pride!
The 'believers' in Covid & 'SAFE and EFFECTIVE' (sometimes DEADLY) INJECTIONS can persuade themselves that all is well, Big Pharma, Doctors, the Governments, Vax makers are all working tireless to save our lives from a (man-enhanced) disease (no more lethal than FLU). Nothing can sway their steadfast confidence in the matter. It's nothing to do with the New World Order, Great Reset, greed or financial gain!
We know of several people with POST VAX health complications (Adverse Reactions). It's happening to friends, but fortunately and incredibly, we do not personally know of deaths post vax. These issues maybe permanent!
We have a local friend, (a dentist) that recently had a Covid jab then lost his memory as well as some other faculties, such as balance, ability to talk or understand. Fortunately, he has recovered somewhat, but we don't know if his memory will 'repair'? His Wife was assured by a relative - a doctor 'expert' that the problem must have been due to her hubby catching Flu & Covid simultaneously! This is how the vax supporters avoid addressing difficult questions = the truth. They believe, and can somehow avoid questioning the narrative!
Doctors used to have pride, dignity, compassion, honesty and the trust of their patients. Their 'oath' was 'DO NOI HARM'. This was way back in 2019, before they received the WEF New World Order instructions to promote EXPERIMENTAL depopulation injections, incorrectly referred to as VACCINES.
Doctors now seem intent in enforcing deadly but useless, ineffective injections into babies that gain no benefit, but can die as a consequence of the injections. This immoral, disgusting, inexplicable insensitivity identifies all that choose not to speak out as MURDERERS!
Now we've sussed the con as a universal CULL (Depopulation) of humanity to reduce Global Warming, which would leave the remaining COVID VAX survivors (and those that joined the dots and saw the BIG LIE = THE GREAT UNVAXXED), as Servants (SLAVES) to our newly 'self appointed' WEF (Elite) masters.
I'm too old to physically physically retaliate but I continue to let the people know how corrupt the World Health Organisation has become since Bill Gates (biggest investor/benefactor/influencer) redesigned their Mission from helping mankind health, into helping to double his fortune by declaring false Diseases, Pandemics and new reasons for 'inventing deadly cures' called 'vaccine'.
Not worth taking another chance with the 'man enhanced' bio-weapon called 'Covid 19 VAX' (Fauci's Gain of Function experimental depopulation project). The 'miraculous' but useless (frequently DEADLY) Covid vax - invented at the "speed of science" (probably simultaneously in the adjacent Wuhan lab). Don't contribute to furthering the Pfizer's directors' wealth by taking yet another health destructing jab.
LIABILITY must be reintroduced for DEADLY INJECTION MAKERS because the 'Temporary concession' for Swine Flu (1976) was a total DEADLY FAILURE but minuscule in proportion to the Covid Vax that's now killing MILLIONS!
EXEMPTION from LIABILITY is nothing more that a 'LICENCE TO KILL', while Big Pharma increase their, already massive, fortunes.
Mick from Hooe (UK) Unjabbed to live longer!
I’m curious about you being a “mediator”. In my mid life, while thinking about potential career change, I wondered about how one becomes a mediator and what the job entails. I say that because I tend to see all sides in a discussion/argument/whatever. (So much that I have a hard time making decisions) I feel these traits might lead me to being a good mediator. Does one have to go to law school?
Can't trust those who lied and censored.
I followed the data posted every day and the numbers of deaths were low. Then doctors who were effectively treating patients were censored.
Forgiveness requires repentance. Those who lied and censored have not repented.
I think it is fair to differentiate between the purveyors of the narrative, and the common folk who were forced to assume position about it.
I want no quarter for the architects of this scamdemic, but I advocate compassion for its victims, including the brainwashed.
I have no compassion for those who won't consider they were duped.
Agreed the duped were the ones calling for our (the unjabbed/unmasked ) heads , jobs, right to worship, access to life saving medical treatments, etc.
Yes the regime brainwashed them, but these sheeple are the ones who would happily throw the switch to exterminate you.
To be fair, this article is not suggesting forgiveness or compassion...but to find common ground with an "enemy". It is a slippery slope though...because once you make yourself see these people, as something they are not...by their own admissions...then you drop your guard and become a victim of them and the regim,e once again.
You are seeing this now, with people who are not seriously considering the possibility of returning mandates and all the punishments that go with them...for non-compliance.
How many times did Charlie Brown trust Lucy?
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me
I always thought after the second time she pulled it away, the next time he should have run up and kicked her in the head...my 6 year old brain knew even then...don't trust the regime or those associated with it!!
Never Forget
Worse. They could have spoke "off the record" with their patients in a "let's wait and see position". But no they did not.
The very worst are the ones that lied that they took the vax while telling you it was " safe & Effective".
I was devastated with grief when one of my adult children told me I had poisoned their mind for most of their life with my cynicism about vaccines and government corruption, and they were DONE with me. I had begged them not to take the experimental shots (with independent scientific evidence and logic) and that was their response to me. A year and a half later I did try to find the common ground Jenna thinks exists, because my heart ached for restoration of the affection that I always thought was inviolable. Well, I learned there is no bridge possible when one person truly believes it's acceptable to punish other persons (like me, their own mother) by restricting their civil and human rights if those citizens refuse to submit to government-mandated invasive and irreversible health interventions. For the record, I was never 'confused', 'terrified', or trying to avoid a treatable viral infection. There was no properly done 'science' for anyone to 'trust'. But I did think we all should uphold the Nuremberg Code and Helsinki Declaration on informed consent. I don't think that qualifies as 'wanting others to see things my way'. I think it's pretty darn obvious that no one should see things Dr. Mengele's way.
Aliss - I’m so very sorry. So many of these heartbreaking stories. I too, have one 😢
So sorry, Aliss! I raised my 4 children holistically and 3 of them took 2 shots and forbade me to send them more information (I had been since mid-2020). Only my youngest admits she made a mistake and will watch or read things I continue to share with her. One daughter and the partner of another, have painful menstrual issues to this day, from shots they took in 2021. It’s distressing.
All 3 of mine took at least 2 shots each. My sister was also forbidden to send info, ask about her grown kids' health, or see her only grandchild. Her younger son, 39, collapsed with sepsis, endocarditis and strings of clots in both arms after his second booster (4th shot), was in hospital for weeks and is now on anti-clotting drugs for life, chronically fatigued and short of breath. He and his wife refuse to acknowledge the obvious cause. And of course, Auntie Aliss is not allowed to speak about it either.
Unbelievable! So sad! That’s some Powerful, social engineered mind-control they succumbed to. The monsters succeeded in the destruction of many familial relationships! I never wavered and hope they and others eventually realize the truth one day.
I told everyone I knew, that was even thinking about getting the jab...up your life and long term healthcare insurance...before the insurance companies insert a clause for covid-anything. All these injured will become the new residence in the assisted living and memory care facilities around the world.
It's a sad reality you are dealing with, but I see it in a similar light to my discussing my Christian faith. I don't try to force it, and even though it isn't easy I accept the reality they will possibly always reject Christ, and I move on. If they want to continue to associate, fine; if they don't, equally fine.
They KNOW, they just don’t want to admit it.
Not sure about that. The cognitive dissonance is over the top with many, even those in healthcare!
IMMENSELY SORRY for the unjust heartaches SO MANY are being subjected to for speaking TRUTH. May God provide comfort and peace for your broken hearts as you continue to gently and respectfully stand!
MFH, Mass Formation Hypnosis is a lot like spike proteins. From "ScienceNews Explores", "... spike proteins latch the virus onto a cell. This allows them to get entry into those cells.". MFH is very difficult to treat.
Aliss, your story and so many like it, reaffirm my decision to not have kids, years ago. No offense to you parents out there. I think it's a thankless job (as is highlighted by Aliss' story) and would be damn near impossible to do well, in today's world.
This will only get worse, as the regime refines if methods and practices of indoctrination and propaganda dissemination. Think of all the kids (k-12) who now see this dystopia, as normal. Add to that the percentage of parents in Karen-ville, reinforcing these regime dogmas and you have generations who are primed (groomed) to pick-up where their parents leave off.
We are once again in a time where children will happily report their parents for wrong think and crimes against the regime.
Best of luck to you parents out there. I'm sure for you, this adds another layer to the crazy cake, our world has become.
I don’t have kids and often times regret it, so thank you for reminding me why I was always leery of reproducing. I can’t imagine raising children in these dystopian times...
I’m sorry your child is so brainwashed. I actually have the opposite situation with my mother, she’s constantly pressuring my to get all the latest vaccines and boosters. She firmly believes they’re helping and can’t understand why I’m so reluctant. Luckily she’s much more tolerant that what your child seems to express.
Thank you for this Jenna. The one similarity that is seriously lacking is the one where we once would read each others stuff and have a civil discussion about it.
Now, the other side, flat out refuses to read or discuss anything 😢
A really good analysis. I’ve been finding being cheeky sometimes works in building bridges on this. I had a situation during the pandemic where my ultra left wing son (right wing hating) and my old school authoritarian Thatcherite Father ( left wing hating) both were berating my unvaccinated status in pretty much the same way, in the same language and from a shared narrative…and I subsequently took every opportunity to remind them of this 😊…it seems to give them a pause for thought and maybe lessened some distance, to me.
I’ve started telling my Trump loathing friends that they took his vaccines. And should they really trust anything from Trump?
There are a few things in common between sides but far more not in common. One side brutally mistreated the other, depriving them of their livlihood, the right to earn a living, and subjected others to inhumane forms of discrimination. One side wanted debate and discussion, the other side responded with silence, censorship, and closed minds which are still now only opening very slowly and reluctantly, one side looks at mounting evidence of medical horrors and continues denial with a charade of absurd causes, the other has known clearly all along why. What is not yet known is how all of this plays out in the future, whether illness and rates of death will continue to increase for the injected, how badly future generations will be affected, and to what extent the non-injected will be affected through the cumulative effects of shedding.
Can't we all just get along? Not now. If there comes a time when this is OVER, then there is the chance for reaching a full understanding and reconciling together, but for now a looming dark cloud hangs over humanity. Many out there still believe the non-injected are walking bags of lethal virus, and Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates are smiling.
Powerful comment! You hit the bullseye. Thank you.
All of us were not actually scared of Covid. For those of us who actually take good care of our health, a strong immune system is first nature to us. My wife and I did the exact opposite of the CDC recommendations. We did not wear masks where it was not required, and we spent a lot of time outdoors getting lots of early morning sun and exercise. No way I submit to a shot prepared under an emergency use authorization, and with barely any control group. I knew I would get Covid, and did, and had an “immediate response” medical plan in place using two of the forbidden drugs. I started that plan the day before I actually tested positive (my wife had already tested positive), tested positive the next day, had three days of extreme fatigue, felt almost normal on the fourth day, and tested negative on the fifth day, all of this at age 64. It’s my educated guess that my system now recognizes that I’ve had Covid and is fully prepared when I’m exposed again, all due to mother nature.
I could’ve written this myself in terms of how we take our health seriously in this household. Shamed by former friends in the “killing Grandma” scenario, I reminded them I Am Grandma. I’ve had 3 bouts with Covid starting 12/19. Crappy but short lived and I’ve had worse flu. My (pushing) 74 year old husband, now out power-walking 8 miles in preparation to walk a half marathon, had it twice. He nearly died of flu related pneumonia last January because the keepers of our medical care said “Covid”, go home and take Tylenol. Only by driving the doctor crazy with calls over two weeks did we finally get a chest x ray and antibiotics. And after a 13 pound weight loss and unrelenting fever for 18 days, he was himself again after 12 hours. We have a new (not employed by a hospital) doctor. And what little trust in the system we ever had is absolutely gone.
just in case you need antibiotics again, try
zinc and quercitin
and goldenseal/ echinacea.
also raw onions and pineapple. a cup chopped a day.
i cannot tolerate most Rx meds. this saved me from a looking like death warmed over flu/ pneumonia i had in 2013 at age 62
Oh yes..we were doing zinc Quercetin, D3, C, selenium and NAC . Basically FLCCC protocol. I have those all in packets ready to go if we need it again. It’s hard to think straight when you’re sick. M sweet neighbor, a herbalist, makes a concoction of onions, cloves and I don’t know what all- I try to take a T a day in warm water but definitely when sick. Good to share these things.
Same here years at 66 years young.
Only difference is I never took THE RAPE up my nose.
The last MD I fired was 3 years ago when he pulled out the RAPE KIT with long POISON end to stick in to my brain apparently is what I thought when this young MD pulled out the long stick.
I was there for something totally unrelated.
I told him that stick will end up in his eye if he thinks to RAPE me with it.
He called security and I left having fired my 8th MD in 10 years.
I fought the REPTILE BRAIN BOUGHT OFF GLOBALIST WHORE MEDICAL MAFIA CARTEL in CHINADA for 20 years before that.
I've been studying and implementing nutrient dense mineral rich super foods for many years.
Been ARESSTED several times before CORONA CULTISTS lost their tiny brain washed minds over a flu.
We are on our own in Ontario CHINADA as there are no MDs available even if you want one.
Get prepared folks for one hell of battle in the coming year.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Well done Nicholas and thanks for the chuckle, as I read your handling of the shill with the nose rape kit 🤣🤣
I, like many of you, see my healthcare, as my responsibility. Eat right and exercise and these reapers, will have little to no access to you.
Best wishes in the coming year, we will all need them.
Yup I've been promoting taking care of yourself in my circles for 25 years and mostly mocked for it.
So thick skin 😍
I know a guy who might be your long lost twin. I used to pick on him about his health care fanaticism; but covid woke me up. My friend is an oddball; and so am I! Take care and quit sending us all that cold air!!!
Haha.
Ya the cold air is also getting a bump with beautiful chemtrails being sprayed this morning on my walk.
Been a dark sky here in Scarborough Ontario CHINADA this month.
Lots of spray.
Being an outside lover this drives me crazy.
I also get in trouble for batching about that to our local gub'ment.
I'll try to cut back on sending the cold.
Lol
The true sign of superior intelligence is spraying sulfur dioxide (I think that's what it is) in the atmosphere to reflect sunlight, supposedly to slow global warming, and at the same time counting on solar power to provide electricity. Brilliant!!!
I envy your take-no prisoners attitude! I would have liked to avoid testing, unfortunately I was only able to avoid getting needle-raped by agreeing to get nose-raped every two weeks (if I wanted to stay employed).
I would have ley my job go.
I didn't have to make that choice as I am 66 now but the choice would be easy as I'm very educated on so called Vaccines
Which by the way have always been poison
Coming from the Thalidomide Era I remembered as my friend in grade 3 Jimmy had a half arm and other things wrong which mattered not to me in grade 3 as we were buddies in the sand box.
He had the best Tonka toys.
And then one day Jimmy was gone.
I found out much later he died from the JABS
I never forgot
I would let them fire me if it was jab or job, but test or job I was willing to do.
Not a decision to take lightly, as I am a firefighter and in addition to it being a job that was hard to get, I am now past the age limit for being a new-hire at other departments.
I knew allot of people in your boat.
Had they not approved my religious exemption "request" (why the heck should I have to beg, in order to hold to the tenants of my religion) I'd have been out of work. I refused to get jabbed or tested.
Back to the original premise of this post...how do you build a bridge with those people??
Those who were pushing the mandates...to include the bleating Karens & Kens around us...said do what I tell you or you're fired...so they had no issue with stripping you of the ability to pay your bills, feed/clothe/house yourself and family, buy meds, gas, etc.
These same people (around the world) incarcerated people (with no crime having been committed) because they would not comply...the sheeple gleefully bleated as they watched it happen.
And WE need to build bridges with them?? Nope!!
It will be a cold day in Dante's Hell, before they get a bridge, rope, or monkey turd, from my side of the divide.
They have shown who they are and given you a glimpse of the extremes they will go to. Remember, they were kept in check, by the rogue cell camera and stories leaking out. The next few rounds, will be more draconian and you may just find, that people who don't comply...disappear.
Beware...The bridges you build, may very well be the one you walk over, on your way to the gulag or gallows.
You got a religious exemption from testing? On what grounds did you object?
I got a religious exemption for the jab but the condition was I had to get tested every two weeks. I never even thought to try for an exemption from the testing!
I didn't write that very well.
It was an exemption from the jab mandate. I'm sure the trade off (especially for gov contractor employees) would have been testing...which I had planned to fight, but would have made them fire me, over not testing....especially since our company went 100% virtual...excluding assembly line employees.
I have no doubt that one of two things or both were true.
1. The tests (as was shown) were loaded or contaminated, to give false positives...allowing them to ramp up fake numbers and push the despotism even further.
2. The swabs were laced with mRna or LNP, in order to ensure that EVERYONE would be infected.
Paul, why did you get tested? If you felt bad didn't you know you had a bug of some type? Between the fact there were so many false-negatives, or whatever, and the fact you probably had no idea if the testing apparatus was treated, wasn't that a bit reckless?
Agree. Taken as many covid “tests” as covid “vaccines”. Zero tests = zero covid. Sniffed out corona bologna from the very start. Had many nice uncrowded days of travel during restrictions.
No, we can't all just get along. The "tolerant left" wanted to get us fired, socially isolated, forbidden entrance to food stores and health clinics, forbidden medical treatment and life-saving diagnosis and surgery, because we would not take an experimental injection with unlisted ingredients using a novel DNA-changing technology. They actually want us dead. We cannot live with them.
This is why it’s so hard to find common ground.
Common ground with your murderer? Not likely.
Common ground with people who aren’t even interested in listening to what you have to say?
Not likely.
It’s likely different for those who at least acknowledge that there even are at least two views of the story. But we can find common ground only with those who also think we have something in common worth sharing.
We were not "all" terrified.
Those Chinese videos of people dropping in the streets should have been one of the first red flags. People who get a pneumonia like illness are not bebopping around town. They've been sick in a bed for the past week. It was to me, obviously fake.
It was also not a totally new virus. A bit of research and you'd know that we've 4 known corona viruses that make up 20-30 % of the common cold and that it was 80% similar to SARsCoV1. That is was a single strand RNA virus, not unfamiliar at all.
A bit more research and you would have found out that in Italy the average age of death was 82 and that 95% of those had 2 or more comorbidities.
You would have found Dr. Ionaniddis and his IFR.
You would have remembered the men who stormed the beaches at Normandy who had an almost 100% chance of death. But they charged anyway. For freedom. For our freedom.
Yes, I know; you're trying to build bridges, but we were not all afraid.
Yup, my biggest fear as soon as the lockdowns came was that they would make mandatory vaccines for everyone. Luckily my fears haven’t come true, yet...
Based upon how governments, businesses and media have embraced the lies about anthropogenic global warming, I'm not holding my breath they will repent their lies about COVID-19 and the experimental gene therapies.
Sorry Jenna, you can try and build all the bridges you want, but if the people on the opposite shore are waiting to ostracize, incarcerate and (if they had their way) exterminate you...it becomes self sacrifice, to show we are the bigger people.
Would we have told the Jews in Nazi Germany...you need to build bridges, find common ground...and if they still persecute you, then show you are the bigger people and walk silently to the showers...knowing you are right.
Extending olive branches is fine, but when you are facing an enemy that is HAPPY to snatch it from your hand and grind it to dust under a jackboot, as they deprive you of a job, freedom of association, life saving healthcare and freedom to gather and worship your God...then building that bridge is a fool's errand.
For the indoctrinated sheeple, it is about finding control and importance in a orchestrated agenda...that was sold to them as a tribe forming message..."for the greater good...do this and you can be a hero...you can defeat the big mean unknown...you are part of the solution."
The orchestrators...as we see now...had a larger agenda and plan, that had NOTHING to do with a fake pandemic or the health of the global population.
Yet their sheeple foot soldiers (those friends and family members we are called to build bridges with), being blinded by the props of the movement...masks, mandates, jab stickers, memes, tweets, dancing nurses and doctors, designer masks, controlled opposition and more...are like the blm/antifa rioters, that ravaged our cities. With little to no understanding, that they were the distracting, destabilizing arm of the regime...they went merrily through towns and cities, wreaking havoc and chaos...and were funded and sent, by the liberal, globalists, who now send the pro jab/mask/mandate sheeple into our midst.
Some life lessons are hard. We have become a society, where EVERYTHING must be happy, joyous, rainbows and ferry farts. If it isn't then the sky is falling...if we all don't like one another, then we HAVE TO build a bridge...compromise...turn the other cheek, be the bigger person...at the peril of ourselves and our families...if that's what THEY say is required.
Here is one more aspect to this bridge building, that is never discussed...it's always the kumbaya part, the let's make nice, let's all just get along...part that is focused on.
When you build a bridge to the shores of Karen-stan, you're not just reaching out across a divide...you're building a direct path for the crazies, into the heart of your Normal-commonsense-ville.
Ever wonder how we got to the point of drag queen story hour, or groomers sitting on school boards, in class rooms, in the teacher's unions???
Bridges were built, to find common ground with the deviants of the past..."sure I don't agree with Mr. Johnson wearing a dress and make-up at the local playground...but we both agree taxes are too high, the war in Afghanistan should end and the Bears will go to the Superbowl this year...he really isn't so so different from me"
The day the sheeple in Karen-stan have their crazy ideas (mask/jabs/boosters)...WITHOUT the punitive cudgels attached to them (mandates/lockdowns, loss of liberties/freedoms/worship/jobs/medical access), that's the day I'll consider building a bridge.
Until then, they can keep dropping like flies, in a billowing cloud of pest spray.
This is ringing true for me.
awesomely told!!
may i screen shot share?
Thank you Jane and absolutely!
Use the comment as you like.
Biden and other officials went a long way in leading the charge to demonizing those who declined the vaccine, even promising a dark winter of illness and death as punishment.
Whatever you use to forgive friends and family who wronged you can never apply to those who abused their authority or otherwise had a responsibility to act.
Lines were crossed that never should have been crossed.
I'm not going to elaborate here but one problem I have with the embracing of "a bridge" is due to the reality they are often one-way. A one-way bridge is usually used to create compromise; and principle is diluted.
And it’s ok for it to be one way. It’s not necessary to keep score, and there doesn’t have to be compromise. You don’t even have to agree to disagree. You’ve honestly put your position on the table in a conversation and folks will be accepting of that or they won’t.
Alas, we have a boundary of thought between us. 🤠
CC, why do I think you and I would get along just fine??
Are you building a one-way bridge amigo?
The real issue is socialist governments lying (I know, it's redundant).
How long did it take for governments to acknowledge tobacco usage is hazardous to health? Who profitted?
Who's profiting from AGW and covid lies?
Hayek wrote an essay regarding how the 'intellectuals' are attracted to socialism because they can't find a way to earn a living as an 'intellectual' in the free market.
Well written Jenna. thank you